Saturday, May 21, 2005

Correcting the mutation that allows producing C

Our need for large amounts of supplemental vitamin C is a result of our lost ability to make vitamin C in our bodies from glucose like most animals. I discuss this on the Why take C page (Click on the Title to go there.)

Van Carman writes:

Dear Sir,

Having discovered cinnamon is an ancient remedy for scurvy, I now take 6 to 10 teaspoons of powdered cinnamon daily for complete correction for our lost enzyme gulonolactone oxidase. Vitamin c test strips show full correction. It really works.

Van Carman

This is very intriguing, indeed!


At 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our bodies never lost the ability
to make vitamin C; the Creator, in
His infinite wisdom, chose not to
provide us that factor. As with
all of His creatures that have no
endogenous vitamin C, He provides
the surrogate, Lp(a), that verifies the statement.

Even if some mutation caused the loss of endogenous VC, the odds against the CREATION of a perfect surrogate are unmeasureable.

At 1:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does the cinnamon act as a catalyst or something to help our body extract Vitamin C by itself?

At 10:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very interesting..yes. But be careful with the cinnamon, i read some time ago that has a carcinogenic.

At 6:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have found that with the addition of honey to the cinnamon,made in to a tea as the cinnamon and honey remedy articles specify,much ascorbate will be produced with the benefits thereof.Sincerely,Van Carman

At 7:59 PM, Blogger Richard A Morgan said...

The cinnamon scheme is quite interesting indeed, but cinnamon does present some negative side effects. My question would be: Why take a relatively expensive compound with negative side effects to correct a condition that can be readily treated with inexpensive, completely non-toxic vitamin C?

At 2:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is thought that the terpene component in cinnamon mimics the lost liver enzyme gulonolactone oxidase. Throughout the plant kingdom, many plants and herbs have the terpene component.

Merry Christmas!

At 3:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Canibis sativa has many terpene components.Has anyone tested the users for ascorbic acid in the urine?Maybe the herb is very beneficial,and the "high"a vitamin c high.Give this some thought.Sincerely,D.J

At 2:59 PM, Blogger Doug Flory said...

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At 3:06 PM, Blogger Doug Flory said...

First let me start by saying that I am a type 2 diabetic. I was a bit of a skeptic when I read an article that listed 22 things cinnamon & honey are good for. A quote from the article that was encouraging to me is "if taken in the right dosage as a
medicine, it does not harm diabetic patients".

I have been taking 1/2 teaspoon of cinammon daily for about for a couple years. About six months ago I started taking honey along with cinnamon. Since then I have to reduce the pills for the diabetes by 50%, and have been loosing about 5 pounds (2kg) per month.

Van has only touched on the benefits of cinnamon and/or honey. There are many claims on the net. I can say with certainty that many of the claims are real.

At 1:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rusty,this is amazing information.If vitamin c is outlawed,I will make my own.Thanks for your good site.B.P.

At 10:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very intriguing anecdotes! But can anyone refer me to any scientific study/discussion of this supposed anti-scurvy potential of cinnamon?

At 8:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is the same /similar conversation that is taking place over on the Vitamin C board with Owen

Can anyone point to more than anecdotal evidence (argh - no such thing sorry) any scientific studies to back up the theory of honey/cinnamon and VIT C?

At 6:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am wondering if any readers have used the cinnamon and honey tea as an energy booster?I have found that it beats all the high priced canned energy drinks and a lot less expensive.Thanks Van

At 6:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rusty,I have found that using homemade superbiomin[Saving the planet with gravel dust]the action of the honey and cinnamon is potentiated.Who knows,maybe a lot of mineral ascorbates being produced internally.Thanks,V.C.

At 1:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rusty,everything is pointing to phenols acting to change gulonolactone into ascorbic acid in humans.Does anyone want to delve into this.Thank you.V.C.

At 6:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Rusty,This is amazing.The olive leaf,with its phenolic components actually changes gulonolactone into ascorbic acid in humans.Have been using 10 to 12 olive leaves per day with excellent results.Those of you who do not live in olive tree growing areas may have to use olive leaf extract probably with minimal results.Thank you

At 1:00 PM, Blogger Neel said...

Some of the claims here are dubious at best.
Van Carman claims that "phenolic compounds" in olive leaf extract will replace GULO. Unless I see some evidence for this claim, I'm going to say it's a wild claim. Phenols themselves get oxidized - in other words, they would not chemically have the ability to oxidize L-gulonolactone.

That's not all - even if these phenolic compounds could oxidize L-gulonolactone in a test tube, that does not mean they will do the same in the body. You would have to establish that these compounds get absorbed into the body, that they don't get broken down, or that they persist long enough in the body in order to have the desired effect.

I can't help but think that many of the people making these dubious claims have a financial stake in the sale of supplements to people - I just wish they would back up their claims with scientific evidence.

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